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Here we go again…

Just four years after the second failed attempt to gain planning permission on this land, we have another planning application.  This one seeks to build 40 houses on the land, with access from De Braose Close (rather than Radyr Court Road), in an attempt to work around the main concerns of the Inspector who found against the developers in the last appeal.  More details can be found here.

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Appeal Dismissed!

The Planning Inspector has dismissed the appeal.

Whilst the Inspector found that ‘the proposed development would not harm the open space resource in the surrounding area’, she did conclude that ‘there would be some detriment to the character and appearance of Radyr Court Road but not sufficient to be decisive by itself’.

Her decision to dismiss the appeal rested on her main conclusion that ‘the proposal would have a significant detrimental impact on highway safety’.

Full details can be found here.

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Site visit by Planning Inspector – this Thursday

The Planning Inspector who will make the final decision on the appeal will visit the site and surrounding area on Thursday 12th June.  This is an accompanied visit, so local residents are encouraged to join this visit, as it gives us an opportunity to show the inspector our enjoyment of this open land (and especially the footpath which the landowner is attempting to close).

Please join the Inspector at 2pm at the end of Radyr Court Road (at the bottom of Spookey Lane).

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Radyr Court Planning case goes to appeal

The applicant has decided to appeal against Cardiff Council’s decision to reject their planning application to build 48 houses on land at Radyr Court Road.  Details of the appeal can be found here.

We will continue to update this site as more news of the appeal and its process emerges.

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Planning Committee rejects application.

On 13th March, the Planning Committee voted by 7 votes to 2 to reject the application.  Arguments against the application centred around the limited capacity of Radyr Court Road to cope with the traffic, and the amenity value of the open space to the local community.

Many thanks to all who have supported this campaign, and to the members of the Committee who have listened to our voices.

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Register your objection
Thank you to all those who have signed the petition, or attended a public meeting.  We have over 700 signatures on various local petitions that have been handed in, and about 100 letters of objection submitted to the council, including ones from the local MP, AMs, Councillors and affected local residents.

We are now waiting for the case to be considered by the Council’s Planning Committee.  Following a site visit that took place on Wednesday 6th March, the Committee will make its final decision on Wednesday 13th March.  The case will be scheduled early in the committee meeting’s agenda, which commences at 2.30pm.

Our environment under threat
An application for planning permission has been submitted to Cardiff Council to build 48 houses on rural land at Radyr Court Road.  The single lane part of the road currently has just six dwellings on it, so this development represents an 800% increase!  That means 9 times the traffic down a narrow rural single-lane track that is also used by many walkers and cyclists (the lane is part of the Radyr Woods walk advertised by the Ramblers’ Association).  The lane also forms part of a planned new cycle path running towards Radyr along the west bank of the River Taff.

In addition to creating a massive increase in traffic along a rural single track lane, the proposed development will destroy a popular walking route along a traditional country path, where ramblers enjoy picking blackberries, walking their dogs, and enjoy views across open countryside up the Taff Valley to Castell Coch.

Many thanks to the seven hundred people who have signed petitions opposing this development, which has also attracted more than a hundred individual objections, including ones from councillors, AMs and the local MP, Kevin Brennan MP, and organisations including the local Danescourt Primary School and The Woodland Trust.

We will continue to update the news page with the latest information.

This site has been created and maintained by Simon Field on behalf of the Radyr Court Road local community.

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  1. A resident of Danescourt.
    Absolutely appalled at the idea of this planned development of 48 dwellings to be built, and in doing so destroy this lovely bit of countryside, along with the country lane that is used constantly for cycling, walking, running, dog walking. It is also used by myself on a frequent basis as well as the “Cardiff Rambles”, as it forms part of the recommended Cardiff Walks “Radyr Woods and Glamorgan Canal”
    The increase in traffic would in my opinion be positively dangerous, as the road along Radyr Court Road is far too narrow, and would endanger other road users, ie children on their way to school, walkers, cylists and animals.

    • I live just down the road from the lane and I use that lane every single day. If they build houses there that will ruin my daily routine. This is outrageous and should not be allowed to happen. I have spoken to friends about this ludicrous plan to destroy that beautiful land for houses that don’t need to be there. Cardiff is a big place, there has to be somewhere else they can put those houses. I will fight against this plan until it is out of the question.

  2. This application has to be stopped seriously folks, the beautiful surroundings that is Radyr Court Road has to remain for all to enjoy, this is just about money and cannot be allowed to continue, we will fight this ludicrous plan tooth and nail until its revoked.

  3. An absoutely ridiculous idea not to mention thoughtless and dangerous. Have the Proposers even considered the impact this proposed development would have on the environment?

  4. One would challenge the planning application on the basis of the legal position associated with the preservation of a very long standing public right of way!

  5. I used to live in Nicholson Webb Close which backs onto the lane where the proposed dwellings are going to be built. I know only too well from childhood memories how much fun and enjoyment you can get from this woodland area. It would be a real shame if it were to be destroyed for what I class as greed!
    I have recently bought a house of my own on Danescourt and the main reason for doing so was that I want my children to be able to enjoy Danescourt and have the great childhood that I had.
    Not to mention the danger of the traffic that would need to use Radyr Court Road, it is far too narrow and would impose great danger to those who use it for leisure.

    We need to stop this to protect Danescourt and keep it as the well known and loved area that it always has been!

  6. Please do not build any more houses, the traffic is tenfold since the new houses at Radyr were build and we don’t need any more houses in this area. This is a lovely area and it would be wrong both for the environment and residents to build the houses. Many school children and cyclists etc. use this right of way and it would be wrong to build on it. Please stop this.

  7. Llantrisant Road, Danescourt way and Radyr Court Road are already struggling with the volume of traffic already during rush hour traffic and school run traffic with no room to expand or improve the road. why add to the problem

  8. I for one do not think it is sad, as the damage was already done when they built the sprawling estate Danescourt. The people of Fairwater and Llandaff were absolutely gutted when they built “yuppie” land on our beautiful countryside. I used to spend most of my summer around the area, especially Povey’s farm behind the row of houses at the bottom of the hill. It was a great place to grow up as a child. You could walk for miles through the countryside, we used to walk up as far as Pentyrch with hardly a car in sight. Imagine a young boys horror, when he went out to walk with his friends to the farm only to find the field opposite the garage, was being hacked up by JCBs.
    So there will be no sympathy from me. As I said the damage was already done in 1979 – 80. The word they used was progress.

    • To Fairwater 1963: Your comment sounds like support for the development. If that’s the case, you’re the one and only. If not, you should be more careful what you write.

      • Don’t see why I should be more careful. It is called free speech. There is always for and against building plans. I am actually against all building on country sites, as my post says, I was gutted when Danescourt was built, but if the area where the plans for these new houses, were built in the 70s when the estate was built, no one in Danescourt would be any the wiser, as the sprawl of the estate would just be bigger than it is now. I know this area very well, it used to be a paddock for riding horses from the farm which was just across the road, the lady in Ty Isaf used to fill up our water bottles, and give us apples from her tree. When I was older, and had children of my own, I used to take them to this area to feed the horses, and walk back to the park in Danescourt. As you probably already know, there are plans to build on Pentrebane, which will probably be larger than Danescourt. I will again feel gutted, but we need housing as we did when Danescourt was built, people living there have families, and their children need housing, so building on the country side appears to be the councils only option. Did you know that it is a fact, that more Welsh people live closer to their families, than they do in other parts of the UK. So it makes sense, Fairwater was built in the 50s, families expanded, so Danescourt had to be built in the late 70s, the next step on the ladder will be Pentrebane and St Fagans countryside, as I said they call it progress.

        • Perhaps I can explain ‘why you should be more careful’. If you are genuinely ‘against all building on country sites’, then your earlier claim that ‘I do not think it [this planning application] is sad’ would seem to be in direct contradiction of your stated beliefs. Such contradictory statements may have a nice ironic effect when read altogether, but if taken out of context (and there are many who might choose to do this for their own advantage) then you would appear to be offering strong and unequivocal support for the construction of 48 houses on a country site.
          I am not convinced that a development in the river corridor, which the council wishes to protect, is inevitable, nor is it the council’s only option. We are all familiar with large areas of brownfield land in and around Cardiff.
          Finally, by posting comments here, you are not exercising your right to free speech, but taking advantage of a privilege granted to you and others by those who have constructed and maintain this site. Those of us who live next to the site seem more prepared to enter into an open and honest dialogue than the owners of the site itself.

  9. I am opposed to the building of 48 houses at Radyr Court Road. There is already an extensive site at Radyr Sidings, which seems almost to join Danescourt via Radyr Woods, isn’t that enough building, in what used to be a rural area? The council doesn’t seem satisfied unless there are houses or apartments built on every scrap of open land and countryside. People need these spaces to unwind due to their busy lifestyles. My family and I have spent many happy hours in this area. My children in particular used to love watching rabbits, horses, squirrels and the many birds and insects that inhabit this green space, now my grandchildren love it too. I know i’m not alone in this as my friends and their children feel the same. It is a very popular route for access to Radyr woods. Please don’t build on this lovely spot or Danescourt will have no countryside left.

  10. So where do you suppose we house the rising population. There is a housing need, just like there was when your own house was built. Will you happily house your children or grandchildren in twenty years time when there arent enough homes? Don’t get angry with my comment, this must be considered.

    • Analysis does indeed suggest that Cardiff needs more houses. Some experts propose that there is sufficient ‘brown field’ sites to satisfy these needs, though the council’s own analysis suggests that new houses on green land are needed too.

      Their strategy caters for this, but still manages to preserve essential green space, and vows to protect the river corridors. This land is within those corridors that the council strategy proposes to protect. Unfortunately, the negligence of the previous council has left it without a formally adopted plan, so developers are winning appeals to build on land anywhere, in the absence of an adopted LDP. It will take a few years before the new strategy becomes an adopted plan. In the meantime, developers will destroy the land the strategy aims to protect. Planned development, where it makes sense is fine – this is just making a quick buck while the council is busy catching up.

      And visit the lane – where people walk. Going from six houses to 54 with a shared single track lane invites accidents.

  11. We walked home from Ysgol Pencae this afternoon through this dog fouled, muddy path, not manageable for a child wearing sandals and in the winter cannot get a stroller through the mud. Brambles and stinging nettles are growing out into the track and I would NEVER let my children walk down the path unattended. A street-lit, paved street along this route would make our walk to school safer, cleaner and more accessible – we would be one less car on Llantrisant Road too!

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